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An op-ed yesterday calling for the president's health care law to be part of the fiscal talks. the white house told the "huffington post" the president opposes that. joining me now from washington, nbc white house correspondent kristen welker and neil irwin. welcome to both of you. happy holiday. >> happy holidays, alex. >> kristen, politico said the negotiations are off to a rough start. what do you see as the likelihood of a deal before the end of the year? >> alex, i think they are off to a relatively rough start. president obama expected to invite congressional leaders back to the white ho...

Question, i think harry reid has a harder problem in keeping his caucus together especially as these issues unfold in the next few weeks. >> you mentioned meeting back in the 9 '3'90s in the oval office trying to avert another government shutdown which begs the question, what should the president's role be? to this point aides have stood along the sidelines and watched it volley from side to side in the senate. should the president take a stronger role in trying to head off a standoff? >> i think the bottom line has to be somebody has to be the convenor, somebody has to take the role of bringi...