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Little, it's gone from upper single digit disaster to a mere six or seven-point drubbing. maybe that trend will continue. i don't see how trump breaks out of the box he's in. he's also the 42% guy and she tends to move between 45 and 48. that looks pretty tough to me. >> so, steve, midweek we had a national poll showing 3%. we had some state polls coming out showing a tightening of the race. you get to the end of the week, doesn't look quite that way. again, this is a day by day thing. your numbers suggest still a long shot for trump and he's, what, 6%, 7% probably down nationally. >> that's w...

Horrible things that are going on in this campaign would dampen turnout but if you look at the line here today, it's not the case now. >> reporter: we'll see if they keep it up in north carolina. a 4 point and 1 point race in favor of hillary clinton but still, too close to call. we'll see as all of this, believe me, is being analyzed, this early voting by both campaigns to see where it is. >> i know you'll talk to these people later and curious to know kind of the climate of the election that's really prompted them to show up early and stand in that line with the heat and want to get this don...

Again, there was that october, early november surprise in 2000 with three weeks to go in this. always the possibility to get something like that. seems like this election has been one day of surprises over another. if you took the poll, this is now, excuse me. it is a ten point race. if you went back to january, to the first nbc "the wall street journal" poll of the year, anything look familiar? exactly the same. ten point lead for hillary clinton. there has been some flux, some volatility. trump had his moments. is it possible that the first judgment voters made beginning of the year ends up ...

Says that the election's going -- >> no, i'm not saying that. >> you just laid out a case. >> if she wins illinois by 8% or he wins by 8%, that cheating won't make any difference. if he wins pennsylvania by 5 or she wins by 56, it'll make no difference. if it's a one to two point race, it could make a difference in a few places. not a difference in indiana, not going to make a difference in north carolina, not going to make a difference in a lot of other places -- >> that's not an affirmation of the way our elections are held in this country -- >> but we do cheat. we have people that cheat at ...

So what they do is they leave dead people on the rolls, and then they pay people to vote those dead people four, five, six, seven, eight -- >> i have to -- we have to go, mr. mayor. to put a button on this, it sounds as though you are saying that trump is serious when he says that the election is going to be -- >> no, i'm not saying that. >> you laid out a case about how democrats steal elections. >> look, if she wins illinois by 8% or he wins illinois by 8%, then that cheating doesn't make any difference. if he wins pennsylvania by 5% or she wins by 5%, it'll make a difference. if it is a one...