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He never has a political record, and how great it is to not have one, but these should have come out years ago, but they're raining down on him special it's almost painful to watch him go through the last few weeks. >> rebecca said the odds are diminishing. what are the odds when it comes to dre donald trump? he's defied the odds. >> the great savior is hillary clinton, who i think a lot of people would argue is maybe the worst candidate running for the second time in the history of presidential politics who has her own faults and problems and scandals. that is the one saving grace. there was ...

Interesting stat, we interviewed people both before and after the democratic debate. where she was going down a little bit, that was the trend we were seeing before the debate. after debate, take a look at this. clinton 60%, sanders 27%. so before the debate, it was much closer race, it is an 8-point race, after the debate, it was 33 point race. that is just too say -- you remember that debate was focused largely on foreign policy, on the battle against isis and those are hillary clinton's strong suits in this race. she is dominating bernie sanders by 60 points or so when it comes to who is be...

Of the attack. >> i can't speak on that. >> ims. >> how much does that happen? you know, george what's his name, romney, his family moved to mexico and nobody maed a big issue. barry goldwater was born outside of the arizona territory. nobody made an issue of that. obama born in hawaii, he's somehow born somewhere else. that's what i'm saying pop i think the country is still getting used to the idea of having a black president and an african-american first lady. this is a country, we have no african-american female senators. lupita just won an oscar for, you know,er the fifth or sixth time in ...

Southerners. >> no, i listen to what they say about him. you lie and the personal nature of the attack. >> i can't speak on that. >> ims. >> how much does that happen? you know, george what's his name, romney, his family moved to mexico and nobody maed a big issue. barry goldwater was born outside of the arizona territory. nobody made an issue of that. obama born in hawaii, he's somehow born somewhere else. that's what i'm saying pop i think the country is still getting used to the idea of having a black president and an african-american first lady. this is a country, we have no african-americ...

Terry mcauliffe. >> how do we know? >> i just know. >> because he's -- >> look, to the data, however. >> those public polls were wrong. they had wrong -- i thought jeff geen the mcauliffe poster always said until five days ago, this was going to be a two, three, point race. democrats are saying we own everything now. >> republicans had to work. this is the thing. republicans had to work extra hard to lose the way they lost in virginia last night. they had to go out of their way. >> the government shutdown really helped. >> the government shutdown, also -- >> three in ten voters in virginia sai...