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Shocking because he's sort of just lurking in the background here, but is very knowledgeable about what's going on, yet has said very little publicly. and people who were around him don't seem to really know what mike pence knows. >> you know, that point, that warsaw meeting, this is in september, right? >> yes. >> this is at the point where zelensky is like what's the deal with the aid, right? the aid is held up, pence is there as a sort of emissary for the president in war. saw. and that struck out to me as well particularly the fact that we know that pence is communicating to zelensky corru...

He personally stopped aid to that country, constitutionally and congressionally passed and appropriated. and on a phone call we now have a record of, he now attempted to extort the leader into investigating his political opponent. he is desperate to obscure all of this. we saw this in the key moment of the day, a simple question from jeff mason of reuters at a press conference later in the afternoon. >> mr. president, can you just make clear right here what do you or what did you want president zelensky to do with regard to joe and hunter biden? >> at that point trump rambled on for a minute a...

His melt down proceeded acrass an upsetting beginning with an oval office appearance, the purpose of which was a meeting with the president of finland who spent most of his day at the white house sitting next to a red-faced spittle flecked enraged bullying man, railing against his enemies, spinning conspiracy theories, talking about jockstraps. seriously he did that. calling members of congress guilty of treason. insisting the entire time the transcript of the call with the ukrainian president which again is proof of his crime somehow exonerates him. remember president zelensky, we are almost ...

Been making the rounds. you know that pence was something of a point person in communicating with president zelensky. he's acknowledged he discussed and according to whistleblower complaint as trump was pressuring ukraine to do his dirty work trump instructed pence to cancel his planned travel to ukraine and now "the washington post" tonight reports this. trump repeatedly involved pence in efforts to exert pressure on the leader of ukraine and used pence to tell zelensky the u.s. aid was still being withheld while demanding more aggressive action on corruption. plus according "the post" one of...

That's the opposite of exonerating. the president used american foreign policy and the state department and his private attorney and his power as president to repeatedly pressure a country into digging up dirt on his political rival. he personally stopped aid to that country, constitutionally and congressionally passed and appropriated. and on a phone call we now have a record of, he now attempted to extort the leader into investigating his political opponent. he is desperate to obscure all of this. we saw this in the key moment of the day, a simple question from jeff mason of reuters at a pre...