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Oriented policing program. >> were you also -- did you also continue your explorer career while in college? >> i stopped being an explorer after my freshman year, and then i role played at the annual conference. >> what does that mean? >> every year the explorer program had an annual conference at breezy point resort and needed role players and they liked to use students or people that were in law enforcement. >> so your -- you are a graduate of st. mary's. >> yes. >> and you -- what did you do after that? >> after that i would have gone to skills in the summer of 1994. >> okay. >> what do you...

Explorer career while in college? >> i stopped being an explorer after my freshman year and then i role played at the annual conference. >> what does that mean? >> every year the explorer program had an annual conference at breezy point resort and they needed role players and they liked to use students or people that were in law enforcement. >> so you graduated from st. mary's? >> yes. >> what did you do after that? >> after that i would have gone to skills. in the summer of 1994. >> okay. and what do you mean by that? >> i went to skills. >> what does that mean? >> i went to the police certif...

While in college? >> i stopped being an explorer after my freshman year and then i role played at the annual conference. >> what does that mean? >> every year, the explorer program has an annual conference at breezy point resort and they needed role players. and they like to use students or people that were in law enforcement. >> so you graduated from st. mary's. >> yes. >> and you -- what did you do after that? >> after that, i would have gone to skills in the summer of 1994? >> ok. what do you mean by that? >> i went to skills. >> what does that mean? >> i went to the police certification pr...

0 >> where's that at? >> he's currently stationed in florida. >> and your other son, where is he at? >> he's in college in north dakota. >> are they going to be home for the holidays? >> yes, they will. >> is your mother in the courtroom? >> yes. >> and your sister? >> no, she's not. >> but is your brother in the courtroom. >> yes, he is. >> and besides your brother and your mother, your father is deceased? >> yes. >> and do you have any other siblings? >> i have another sister and a brother. >> what do they -- do you know what their ages are? >> my oldest sister is in her 50s and my other bro...

0 >> no, they are not. >> and where is nicholas? >> he is an active duty marine. >> and where is that at? >> he's currently stationed in florida. >> and your other son, where is he at? >> in college in north dakota. >> and are they going to be home for the holidays? >> yes, they will. >> is your mother in the courtroom? >> yes. >> and your sister? >> no, she's not. >> but is your brother in the courtroom? >> yes, he is. >> and besides your brother and your mother and your father is deceased? >> yes. >> and do you have any other siblings? >> i have another sister and a brother. >> do you know w...