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Remember this, bill, the rio grande valley is the most insecure, the most porous part of our border right now. >> bill: the national park, one of the beautiful parts of america. you don't need a wall there, it is so hard to get througho because of the mountains and rivers and everything. it will be a wall where you it will be a wall where you need it. is that the vision? >> that is exactly right. what the secretary understands of it is called "layering assets." boots on the ground, detectors on the ground, boats in the water, several layers of air technology, plus the fencing used strategicall...

>> if i look at how donald trump did in my district which is 20%. they would dump him. >> isn't there a way? >> you can start seeing this at every inauguration that people find objectionable. you are making a very different argument. john lewis said it's illegitimate. that's not what you are saying. >> i would have been happy to go to george bush's or george herbert walker bush. the policy difference is easier to get over. we come from different perspective and the characterizing goes deeper. who we are as americans and what we value in terms of women. they had serious issues as character over...

About 20%, if there was a poll in my district i think they would overwhelmingly tell me to stay home. >> are you concerned this might be setting a precedent, we could start seeing this at every inauguration, people will find things they find objectionable? because you're making a different argument than some of your colleagues, john lewis says it's ill le mitt jat because of russian interference. you're saying i find him offensive. i think a lot of people say they find other people offensive. is this a good precedent? >> you know, i would have been happy to go to george bush's either one or ge...

Business. this is one of the ways they do business. you have a policy disagreement with nominee x. what you do instead of talking about the policy difference, you find something like this exactly to get them all hung up to disgrace them to do whatever to get them out. to be candid, this applies to both parties. i'm not thrilled with doing that. the second thing, one of the things that's going to happen with donald trump is we're going to have a lot of discussions in this town. things will be turned upside do down. one thing we will talk about is what about political conflicts of interest? what...

Party trying to figure out what to do? >> and we have been through a number of these confirmation situations. it is almost always exactly as dana described it. they have a policy difference with nominee a, b or c. they don't want to say they have already said that. we don't want obama care repealed but they are not going to touch that. they are going to go after some conflict of interest. that's what they do. if the thing is big enough then they hope to hammer the nominee into the ground and defeat. that is the m.o. it is a cynical game and a dangerous game because at this point one of the rea...