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My point as a policy maker, the third function of my job is to make sure this doesn't happen again. how in the world are we going to be able to do anything if we can't figure out what happened in that building in those 40 minutes? the governor wants to talk about school safety, i think that the issues here are bigger than that. how in the world are we going to find out if the school is safe or not if we don't have the information. the errors that occurred here, the systemic failure, human errors that ended up with this terrible loss of life, everybody is accountable. every one of the law enfor...

Because and very few instances have a mass shooter stop to pick a lock, or attempt to break into a locked door, because they usually do want to get to victims, and he moved quickly. >> there's this question of the actual, numerical risk of this. which in the grand scheme of things is relatively low, in the firearms are leading cause of death for children. was it that is happening not in a kind of context like eovaldi or santa fe. but, also, it's not crazy that this looms large in the minds of prayers as such a cultural fact. and one of the things that policy makers have to do is navigate that ...

Their willingness to do on 2:50 years of president, with the shock of a pan. that's unfortunate, and it's deeply troubling, it should not have happened, we should not be in this position, but it is what happened -- with a political agenda. that's why it wasn't surprising. >> what kind of impact do you think these protests and public outcry could that have, potentially, do you think? >> there is a good question. i don't think we know for sure. we may have an effect on the court, but it may not. the justices come, particularly the recent ones, with long histories on this issue. it remains to be ...

So they got these texts. what else do you think that might be open to hear from him? and just these messages, do they reveal enough to help their case? >> definitely filed their case. this is so beyond the pale of a former press relationship, right? he's not even being just a mouthpiece for the government, he's been a policy maker. he is taking advice from meadows, giving advice to meadows. this is the antithesis of what you think an organ of the press i'd be doing. but the real focus now, he probably doesn't have any criminal exposure, but meadows might. so, yes, to the extent that it reveals...

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