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Investigations, we continued to work with them on policy issues like the iraq war. it was a big deal at the time. so it can be done. this is what trump does. >> and harp and the financial crisis. >> precisely. this is what trump does. trump gets people to fight at his level. he wants it to be personal. he wants the name calling. he wants people questioning his mental sanity. i worked or marco rubios campaign. he got us to do it and worked to trump's advantage. same thing is happening now. he's drawing pelosi on to his turf and he is more comfortable with the name calling than he is with debati...

Sanctuary cities and states based on whether they adhere to federal immigration law, and it did not happen. >> they certainly can, congress has the power as you say, and they can instruct these executive money will be spent in certain areas and not spent in other areas. and i think that sanctuary cities is something that everybody can understand. it is not really a matter of policy nuances. it is a matter of logic. if you say that we are going to give sanctuary to people who are here illegally, it attracts people who are here illegally. it is a safe space for them. it is a safe space for them,...

Very late last night. he scheduled a vote for noon today, joe, to reopen the government, a three-week extension tied to consideration of an immigration bill. but how did we even get here? both the "new york times" and the "washington post" paint a picture of a president who is obviously in way over his head. from the "times" "the president was either unwilling or unable to articulate the immigration policy he wanted much less understand the nuances of what it would involve." thor from the "post" "pinging from one upheaval to the next, while clearly not understanding the policy nuances of the n...

Go for it? >> the president's heart is right on this issue. i think he's got a good understanding of what will sell. and every time we have a proposal, it is yanked back by staff members. as long as steven miller is in charge of negotiating immigration, we're going nowhere. >> or as "the washington post" frames it, yet another period of trump-tulled tumult. not understanding the policy nuances of the negotiations. that's the quote. so we are now in day three of a government shutdown. this morning, all eyes are on the senate where there are now signs of a possible break in the log jam. good mor...

Senate. you can say that and while it's not true, it's not practically speaking, you need 60 votes. you need some democrats. 90% of democrats voted for the shutdown and like 9% of republicans. people will feel a lot of pain starting tomorrow, starting tomorrow. it's important we come together, bipartisan and fund the government and then hash it out and deal with the daca population. there is no deadline, tomorrow or the next day or the next week on the daca population. however -- >> it's in march. >> there will be a lot of pain starting tomorrow. >> right. look, let's even move this off capito...