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Positive thing for american foreign interests has been mixed, at best. and among conservative policy thinkers, on foreign policy, there really are -- there is a lot of skepticism about whether the united nations is the right way to pursue america's interests. and so, it's not surprising that at this stage in the trump presidency, they decided to downgrade this and say -- and send the signal that, hey, this is less of a priority for us. >> all right, basil smikle, boyd, tim, i wish we had more time because there's a lot more to discuss. coming up, saying no. rudy giuliani's new message to rob...

So richard, this seems to be the sor sort of step that a lot of policy thinkers have wanted to take for a long time. are you satisfied with it? is it enough? >> the good news here is that the united states and others one reacted to what russia did and it was concerted. it was almost like the old days with the united states and its allies forged something of a common position. this is foreign policy on auto pilot. if you expel russian diplomats, shockingly enough they're going to expel american and european diplomats. we didn't do anything to provoke this. they did it all. so i would have much ...

So i think this is really overstated, people are frankly looking for ways to pick apart trump foreign policy, but i actually think the criticism is quite silly. the g-20 doesn't stand for our values, with china and russia in the it, it has nothing to do with our values, it's a way of getting governments to meet to help solve problems and that's all it is. >> we will leave it at that. next on gps, the russian view of the donald trump putin meeting, one of russia's foremost policy thinkers, once a close advisor to the president in just a moment. isn't just what you invest in, but who you invest ...

Trump foreign policy. there's plenty to criticize but i actually do think the criticism is quite silly. the g20 doesn't stand for our values, with china and russia in the it, it has nothing to do with our values. it's a method of getting heads of government and state to meet to try to solve problems and that's all it is. >> we will leave it at that. next on "gps," the russian view of the trump/putin meeting. one of russia's foremost policy thinkers, witness a close adviser to the government, will join me in a moment. than tylenol 8 hour. and only aleve has the strength to stop tough pain for u...

President obama. bhau is an added twist. he has the governor experience as well as the congressional experience. you know, the reaching across the aisle part is maybe a little more difficult for mike pence given his ideological record. in terms of how he carries himself and longstanding alliances with policy thinkers, as well asser elected officials. he is a real asset to trump in the early days of the transition. >> all this focus personnel. what do we know about the policy development? is it that they are locked if and trying to start with the big things of tax reform and infrastructure? >> ...