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Readout nationally on what the shakeout of the debate is. individual polls can take you in wildly different directions. trust the averages when that happens. >> okay, steve, at the risk of mucking up your beautiful presentation, tell me the poll i saw today that has biden in iowa in fourth place because all roads lead through there, but this may explain why the biden campaign has been saying iowa shmiowa, wait until you see us in south carolina. >> yeah, so take a look here, this is an iowa state poll that came out today. warren in first in iowa. buttigieg in second in iowa. sanders third. the...

Shakeout of the debate is. individual polls can take you in wildly different directions. trust the averages when that happens. >> okay, steve, at the risk of mucking up your beautiful presentation, tell me the poll i saw today that has biden in iowa in fourth place because all roads lead through there, but this may explain why the biden campaign has been saying iowa shmiowa, wait until you see us in south carolina. >> take a look here, this is an iowa state poll that came out today. warren in first in iowa. buttigieg in second in iowa. sanders third. they have biden in fourth. now, again, indi...

Poll. biden here 34%. this is the best he's seen since that debate. sanders you see there in the mid teens. buttigieg, the rest of them. when you start seeing polls that are all over the place like this, do i believe this one, do i believe that one? average them all together, so take a look if you look at the current polling average all the different polls out there on the democratic side, here is what it looks like. biden about a 5 1/2 point lead over warren for second, sanders in third. suggests a couple things. obviously, biden, stability. there was a lot of questions going into that debate...

Teacher. he really got personal in the speech. you could tell the crowd accepted what he had to say. i will say vice president biden, you mentioned the polling average, he's building the lead that he lost at one point, he's building that right back up. we're seeing a shift somewhat in his campaigning style. this week he'll be going to iowa and south carolina, a stop in north carolina. he's breaking away from more events like these, the cattle call events and do more retail political events having interactions with the voters. we'll see what that does to his polling and stance in this race. bac...

Joining me at the big board in new york, msnbc national political correspondent, steve kornacki from the location of tonight's debate in ho, nbc news correspond ebt enter, mike, and mark. steve, first, how do the numbers look ahead of f the debate? >> let's show you a before and after. before the last debate and heading into this one, basically what has changed since that last september debate heading into h this one. of course in that period of time, all of the stories about ukraine, the trump controversy. so heading into that one, biden, the average of all national polls, ten points over ber...