Times. in those instances what happens when a person with a disability wants access o that pool? they aren't the safest solution, and we really think that the permanent lifts are the way to go, and so we're pretty excited that we're close to making or close to seeing that happen. jenna: well, and, marlene, a quick final thought. what's fair is fair, to mark's point, access to everybody and everybody has the same rights to these properties. so isn't it just the job of these pool operators to comply finally? >> we think the guest services and accommodations is what the industry is all about, and...