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Really diminishes the president's legacy, but not necessarily, bob shrum was righting about this not necessarily hurting his re-election chances, he thinks immigration maybe more important from that give us your take in the context of how important health care is for the 2012 election. >> well, look, in terms of the president's legacy, hugely important, four years in office. this supreme court is seen as being highly politically, people saw the immigration decision went the other way, they saw, a-ha this very political supreme court is getting ready to inoculate themselves to strike down obama...

>> is there going to be some kind of reform this year that's agreeable to both sides? will they do this piecemeal and do something on portability, on pre-existing conditions, to start with. that first chunk, is it going to happen? >> i really believe that it can happen, and i believe that the president should try again to reach out to the other side. i know what he tried to do in the beginning. mr. boehner, the leader of republicans in the house, he chose the path of saying, nah, our party's not going to support any of this, and it puts the pressure on anybody on the other side, who wants to t...

Troops. this is what he does. the outpouring of support and adulation for former president clinton was just great last friday. it helped me a lot. he endorsed me a month ago, and then came in, has done robo calls for me. i'm very grateful to the president. but this is -- you know, once a primary's over, chris, for the most part, we come together, and then the major objective is -- >> i'm with you. let's have some fun. by the way, congratulations again, congressman. let's have some fun. you came on "hardball" two years ago and talked about reaching a bipartisan compromise on health care, which ...

The congressman did with chris matthews two years ago. what he was talking about there when he said he liked some republican ideas, he was talking about health reform. >> okay. give us some hope. is there going to be some kind of reform this year that's agreeable to both sides? will they do something on portability, on preexisting conditions. let's start with that? is it going to happen. >> yes. i really believe it can happen and i believe the president should try again to reach out to the other side. i know what he tried to do in the beginning. mr. boehner is the leader republican in the hous...

The rich? mitt romney, chris christie, newt gingrich, and bill pascrell. >> i liked some of their ideas. >> that clip of mr. pascrell, that clip right there at the end, that came from an interview the congressman did with chris matthews two years ago. what he was talking about there when he said he liked some republican ideas, he was talking about health reform. >> okay. give us some hope. is there going to be some kind of reform this year that's agreeable to both sides? will they do something on portability, on preexisting conditions. let's start with that? is it going to happen. >> yes. i re...