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To be good for the medicare to do over time and to provide some kind of services and theyre in fact one of the things that would be good for medicare to be able to do over time is to provide not om some of those ombudsman kinds of services but potentially even a structure to help people manage the long term services. That might be an addon program that people would enroll in and pay a modest income related payment for in which they could get additional help in managing that system. But i think the whole idea of managing it and to the family members and then the area thats that and maybe even a...

Im dave on schedule. Im dave cook from the monitor, our guests today are Thomas Donohue and bruce josten, the chambers the Worlds Largest notforprofit business administration. Both men have been our guests before, and were glad they came back. According to the new york times, mr. Donahue once wrote his ambition was to, quote, bring the biggest [inaudible] in this town, unquote. Before leading the chamber, he served for 13 years as president and chief executive officer of the American Trucking association. Prior to his tour at the ata, he was Group Vice President of the u. S. Chamber of commerc...