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we are grateful. the "the beat" starts right now. >> you and everyone else in america is getting a law degree, one i paid for. but we are going to expend all that legal knowledge. thank you. and welcome to the "the beat." i'm katie phang in for ari melber. we have a lot to get to tonight. later, i will talk live to the lawyer for ruby freeman and shaye moss, the defamed election workers who won a $148 million verdict against rudy giuliani. now they are suing him again. plus, we've got historian ruth who is here to talk about trump's threat to democracy and his gop enablers. we ...

Think what that indicates is that in general the president's base has not deserted him, and i think it's unlikely to desert him. the question is enthusiasm. >> yeah. >> and passion, and this sort of enthusiasm gap that we talk about as we approach it. >> let me say some thing, mark murray, deputy political director, say conservatives will always say and some in the media will say it was the progressive blogosphere that got president obama the nomination. >> not true. >> john edwards was probably -- if there was a straw poll of the progressive blogosphere, john edwards was there. obama was neve...

Think what that indicates is that in general the president's base has not deserted him, and i think it's unlikely to desert him. the question is enthusiasm. >> yeah. >> and passion, and this sort of enthusiasm gap that we talk about as we approach it. >> let me say some thing, mark murray, deputy political director say conservatives will always say and some in the media will say it was the progressive blogosphere that got president obama the nomination. >> not true. >> john edwards was probably -- if there was a straw poll of the progressive blogosphere, john edwards was there. obama was never...