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>> correct. >> tucker: i will ask to you explain them. so far you haven't managed to do that. >> you asked me a question about black voters and i gave you an answer. >> tucker: how is it the fault of conservatives that african-americans. >> i didn't say conservatives. >> tucker: african-americans and democrats supported joe biden over harris. >> i didn't say conservatives. i said black voters in south carolina are concerned about what will white voters think at the polls? >> tucker: how do you know that? you so i-slow down. you are making a claim. where -- do you have evidence of this? >> what...

Problem. he got out in front of it. two people were fired. after he had an understanding of what had happened. the comparisons are being made to benghazi and the irs and the times when the president has stood at the podium and said i am going get to the bottom of this. and nothing happened. >> for conservatives it's an opportunity to turn it back and say why has he not fired anybody. it looks like a lack of accountability. i understand the tendency to want to get away from chris christie and the troubles he presents for the republican party. he many the number one candidate in terms of the pol...

They need big argument and an aggressive campaign. >> bret: leadership campaign. a.b., people who say conservatives, like the weekly standard talked about this, don't forget about the primary. where romney was told he wasn't bold enough either. yet, he pulled it out. >> the thing is, bret, i want to start by agreeing with steve that polls are volatile. rasmussen when we were in charlotte had romney up after his convention by five. no one should pay attention to those. if you are the romney campaign, forget the primary of the getting close to election day is running out of opportunities to chan...

Think what that indicates is that in general the president's base has not deserted him, and i think it's unlikely to desert him. the question is enthusiasm. >> yeah. >> and passion, and this sort of enthusiasm gap that we talk about as we approach it. >> let me say some thing, mark murray, deputy political director, say conservatives will always say and some in the media will say it was the progressive blogosphere that got president obama the nomination. >> not true. >> john edwards was probably -- if there was a straw poll of the progressive blogosphere, john edwards was there. obama was neve...

Think what that indicates is that in general the president's base has not deserted him, and i think it's unlikely to desert him. the question is enthusiasm. >> yeah. >> and passion, and this sort of enthusiasm gap that we talk about as we approach it. >> let me say some thing, mark murray, deputy political director say conservatives will always say and some in the media will say it was the progressive blogosphere that got president obama the nomination. >> not true. >> john edwards was probably -- if there was a straw poll of the progressive blogosphere, john edwards was there. obama was never...