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Entirely, if this turns out to have been an effort organized by the white house or the president's legal team to try to compromise the investigation, to try to get inside information in from the investigation to advantage the defense for the president, would you expect that to become a matter of investigation for the intelligence committee and other intelligence committees of the house? >> absolutely. the first role i think for the congress in all of this is to try to protect the independence of the justice department and the integrity of bob mueller's investigation. that means learning, findi...

Followers just kind of accept it. and i'll answer the question, how is it affecting us, by saying, i've been on the road for about two weeks in europe, asia, hong kg, singapore, france, italy. i spend half my time in every ind of explaining what's going on with our president and our administration. it's enormous sand in the gears and this is really what the nato heads of state and government are concerned about. it's all a distraction. and it has significant potential consequence if we don't have credibility in crisis. and that is what really ought to concern us. >> right. >> well, admiral -- ...