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That the russian people will suffer long before vladimir putin. what considerations do biden and nato need to take when amping up sanctions or relying on them as a deterrent? >> that's right. there has been years and years of sanctions that has not slowed vladimir putin down. at the same point, this could be the deciding factor really. for a lot of wedges. a lot of the oligarchy, russian oligarchs, live abroad. if it was severe sanctions it would really cramped their lifestyle and change their ability to move money around. that something might play to the hand of vladimir putin, but not someth...

That something might play to the hand of vladimir putin, but not something that russian oligarchy would really enjoy. that is a potential wedge there. i think that the other part is, i am worried that the biden administration will not push sanctions quite far enough. what you are seeing so far, coming out of the white house, they are going to sanction entities in donetsk and danske, these two regions, but that does really strike that the russians. in some ways, it may even play to their advantage. meaning that there will not be capital and money moving into that region. which leads it to the c...

Force the president's hand on this, to make him do something about jamal khashoggi? do something about saudi arabia? i mean, we saw the congress to some extent defy the president on russia's sanctions. and that battle went on for some time. could that happen again here? >> right. i mean, it was extraordinary, even under the obama administration. you saw a growing kind of consensus inside the senate to sanction saudi arabia over the war in yemen. try to block arms sales. and among a lot of republicans. and this was pretty extraordinary when talking about saudi arabia. you don't usually see memb...

They have to pass an appropriations to fill out this budget that they've now agreed to? >> i think we've kind of been out of it since republicans took control of all branches of government effectively. and the democrats gave it a whirl it didn't last too long in terms of using immigration as a potential wedge to hold up government spending. what we saw was that their party is not mitch mcconnell's party in the same tactics don't work in terms of base politics. so i think that brett may be right. that what we've seen here is a deal that we would have never gotten under barack obama. i bring you...

Stand, even now in december, they're still going to be behind the eight ball a little bit. i don't think they're going to get to a million enrollees by the end of the year, but it's possible they're moving in the right direction. sure looks like it based on enrollment data, but i don't think they can throw something else and hope that it's a shiny metal object here. i think they've got to clear the decks with health care. i think they've got to make their staff all focused on getting it done. yes, i think the minimum wage is a potential wedge for them, but i also think the republicans are goin...