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We have poverty problems and problems with indiggents. there is a price to be paid for all of this. >> we have to make sure we get our facts straight. the congressman says if we get all of these daca kids out of the shadows. not only will their family get legalized and their extended family will be legalized so we will get 8 million people more in the country. that's not true. what we have to do as americans works veto -- we have to protect the kids that have everything but a piece of paper. are we going to say leave, you lived in this country 5 to 10 years and graduated from our school. are w...

Anyway. the politics of this are this thing is clearly not going to be enacted into law any time soon. there's an open question of whether it's going to get a vote in the house. let's talk about the flossy behi flossybehind it. when you look at the programs that deal with the poor, medicaid, he talks about block grants, repealing the affordable care act. treating the medicaid portion as a block grant. food stamps, block grant, he says. welfare, block grant programs. the basic philosophy behind that is, look, if you try to one-size-fits-all approach out of washington, it's going to get bungled....

In the house. let's talk about the philosophy behind it. when you look at the programs that deal with the poor, medicaid, he talks about block grants, repealing the affordable care act. treating the medicaid portion as a block grant. food stamps, block grant, he says. welfare, block grant programs. the basic philosophy behind that is, look, if you try to one-size-fits-all approach out of washington, it's going to get bungled. better to leave it to the states, local governments. they can figure it out, they can fit it better. what's your take on the basic philosophy? >> the states have such an ...

In the house. let's talk about the philosophy behind it. when you look at the programs that deal with the poor, medicaid, he talks about block grants, repealing the affordable care act. treating the medicaid portion as a block grant. food stamps, block grant, he says. welfare, block grant programs. the basic philosophy behind that is, look, if you try to one-size-fits-all approach out of washington, it's going to get bungled. better to leave it to the states, local governments. they can figure it out, they can fit it better. what's your take on the basic philosophy? >> the states have such an ...

An hour minimum wage. i think a higher minimum wage makes much more sense for america, and gets us back to where we were in the late 1960s at the peak of our post war prosperity. >> the irony here is, i spent a lot of time talking on this show to low wage, minimum wage workers. they make the same case you do. people would rather earn a wage they could feed their family and pay their rent on, then get things like food stamps and the earned income tax credit. >> exactly. it's strange today that we have the democrats, we have president obama saying we should make work pay more, which would automa...