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And dangerous. >> ed: morgan, 20 seconds, what about the idea that he talked about with the funding? is there a chance for a partial shutdown because the president wants the funding? >> i think this is a big chance. at this point i sort of expected to happen if congress doesn't make a deal before the december 7th shutdown. it wouldn't be an entire government shutdown, it would be a partial government shutdown as it relates to homeland security funding. i think this is the president's last best chance to get the border wall funding. he will have a hard time getting it with nancy pelosi in charg...

There's a -- there are various documents that are traditional annual and biannual approaches that are laid out in writing. this president has, if anything, left foreign policy to be a case by case, i'll approach it by my gut, and if there is any sort of policy, a thing that connects all his different actions in foreign policy, it's just that it's transactional. it's just that he's going to kind of make a decision as to what he thinks is good for america financially or in some sort of a power dynamic, and he doesn't have a broader foreign policy vision to put it into. that's what makes these th...

Extent that adults after her were not vilified and she is suffering the greatest damage. i don't know how you put that away, you put the injustice of that away and move on with as much composure -- >> she wound up talking about victimization and bullying online. she really wound up doing so much with her life. julie, i'll start with you -- if it happened today, what would be the play? do you think a president would survive? i'm not talking about impeachment. i'm talking about court of public opinion. what do you think would be different? >> i think it would be much, much different today and i ...

She is suffering the greatest damage. i don't know how you put that away. you put the injustice of that away and move on with as much composure as she is showing. >> she wound up talking about victimization and bullying online. she has done a lot with her life. here is the big question for both of you before i let you go. julie, i will start with you. if it happened today, what do you think -- what would be the play? do you think a president would survive? i'm not talking about impeachment. i'm talking about court of public opinion. what do you think would be different? >> i think it would be ...

Against her, you mark my words, they'll be working against her, is john kelly, the chief of staff, who was no fan of nikki haley, either. it's not like it will be some smooth red carpet, but if trump is behind her, i don't know what has been said, but if he's behind her, it really doesn't matter what john kelly thinks or says. >> just explain for our viewers sort of those -- that pressure between john kelly and some of the washington professionals and the family and those aligned with the family. because that is sort of the age--old power dynamic. >> right. >> sort of the root of so much dysfu...