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From a power perspective as well as how they're actually communicating to their systems and actually shut be down the systems. >> what do we know about the north korean system and the networking that they have. >> they're very much shut off country and they actually have cyber capabilities as well. i wouldn't say that they would have the ability to disrupt what we can do, but, you know, they saw that they were able to take tone sony and other companies. they're very secretive in what they actively go and do. we have a lot of capabilities that are actively trying to get into north korea at a gi...

I wonder if people care about the feelings of people running the nation's top spy agencies or top law enforcement agencies. >> well, i'm not a lawyer, but i believe to prove a criminal case of obstruction of justice, you have to prove it was done corruptly with an intent to obstruct. not just suggesting to someone but, you know, in the presidential context, actually ordering. and so whether they felt pressured or not i think is significant from a legal perspective, but as meike said, tvs n it's not significant from a political perspective, from an abuse of power perspective. >> michael schmidt...

Show last night and i don't think there is a more powerful athlete in all of professional sports. maybe mayweather but i don't think there is a more, a stronger athlete in all of sports from a power perspective than lebron james. he's basically, when you say -- >> he's basically taken over as the gm of the miami heat. he said, i want napier from uconn. >> he's tweeting it like while it's happening. yeah, that's what i was going for. >> we talk about pat riley. this was the man who was supposedly the zen, supposedly able to keep that team of those new yorkers who were these bad boys together an...

Elsewhere for leadership in the fiscal world. as i said, no way right now that that could be taken over by china. the currency here is not international enough. the markets here are not big enough or liquid enough for the world to kind of make china its standard bearer. but certainly from a power perspective, they have been reveling in this mess in washington, showing the future may be here in washington. many people say it is deeply hypocrital, because of the way the economist party runs the economy. it is not an economy like the u.s. certainly there would not be room for discussion, like in ...

Election and doing this kind of stuff. sew probably feels, i can do it my way. >> i think we're seeing a pattern emerge here and that is that donald trump approaches these questions of being presidential and governing from a power perspective and that is, do i have more power than the other side? am i the alpha male in this situation? and i'm going to seize upon every situation and basically threaten the people who may oppose me or stand in my way. if you don't do this, i'm going to do that. >> you know, david, it's different when you're knocking the media and knocking a big company. what abou...