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Most draconian way and we don't have-- >> good point even though it's not draconian. >> in the economy how about in a haphazard way, or a ham-handed way and we don't have any real perks done to the nation. >> neil: charlie. >> i think the pr problem, and dire predictions and he came out in press conferences and say we're not going to enter the the apocalypse, finally, after predicting apocalypse for months, but he had the pr problem because the apocalypse, at least coming from the white house, baked in a lot and there will be some pain, i'm sure. you know, a couple of government workers are go...

To compromise? >> i think one of the things people need to keep in mind is even though we look like we're deadlocked right now, maybe the democratic strategy with regard to republicans is looking at the 2014 mid-term elections. it's a high number of republicans that want the status quo, but the vast majority of the american public does not want this. and i think that if the sequester deal, if it actually happens, when you start seeing these stories across the country about the impact on real people's lives, it's going to hurt republicans and in 2014 that's a huge problem for the republican par...

Rick? >> it is a big question, jenna. boeing's dreamliners were made with lithium-ion batteries, batteries used because they're lighter in weight and more powerful from others on the market. the problem the batteries get much hotter than other types. that is what led to the entire fleet of dreamliners, all 50 of them being grounded. investigators in japan, sort of their equivalent ever the ntsb there, found evidence of called thermal runaway in an incident in japan last month. basically the battery overheated on the 787. that seems to be what happened in a second japanese owned dreamliner that...

Look, if the nra would come out and say, listen, it's important to us to have responsible gun ownership. it is clear some people aren't responsible. we want to help this country and protect our citizenry by making sure irresponsible people don't get guns, it would go miles to solve this pr problem they have right now. >> that's the hope all of us have, but unfortunately, as yet, we did not hear that. >> i think hogan gidley is one of the most republican voices in the republican party and thank god for him, but the reality is you also don't need to buy a ladder but there are currently more fede...

Raised taxes just didn't have the guts to stare down the president and say no, we're not going to do it your way. we're going to do it our way. >> raising taxes on the wealthy has been a huge winning issue for democrats for a long time. republicans did buckle to that. grover is associated with tax increases and the pledge, he also talks a lot about spending. and for conservatives now who want to move on from this pr problem for them, they've got to start talking about spending. >> a disaster. >> they have to say, what do they want to cut? and i think grover and john boehner and other -- paul r...