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this sunday's new york times. in it he writes, to once again these successful governing parties, we must move on from mr. trump. he also takes aim without naming him at florida governor ron desantis and what he refers to his quote, angry, divisive and performative politics. now, in hawkins view the party needs someone other than trump or desantis. non divisive, common sense conservative who convert brought in the parties base, someone he argues is just like him. the irony is, he is writing those words in an op-ed explaining why he is not running for president. which, with all due res...

We talk about notoriety being good notoriety, and while he would have preferred not just be slapped in the face, i'm pretty sure on that one, but the followed for him was actually a good follow. he got a boost in the number of people that knew who he is. >> yeah apparently, nobody knows what that is, -- >> i've never quite understood. it >> what it is is a poll, and it says okay, given these actors, these public figures, is this one of your favorite people in the entire world? one of the actors, that's your positive q score. lower down on the scale, you have a negative q square. look at his po...