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Lawmakers are proposing some maps that could give republicans an 11-3 advantage in the state's congressional delegation. 48% of people in north carolina voted for joe biden in the 2020 election. congresswoman, what do you make of the redistricting efforts by republicans in your own state? >> it goes back to picking your voters rather than letting voters have proportionate representation. north carolina is a purple state. we're very evenly divided. we have a democratic governor, an attorney general, but we have republican u.s. senators. and there is no reason to draw districts like the republic...

Those had to be precleared, right, by the department of justice to make sure they were not harming voters who have been historically marginalized. that clearance no longer necessary. without that preclearance, these maps are being drawn. they can be approved with impunity in these gop controlled legislatures unless a court declares after the fact, not before, after the fact that those newly drawn districts can negatively impact voters of color, other marginalized folks. >> which is also why it's important to understand and know what judges are making their way to the bench permanently. maria, ...

Present danger that's going to have long term impacts, joy. you talked about it in your opening. you said okay, these redistricting cuts they made to the districts, they don't have to deal with preclearance and don't have to deal with the freedom to vote act and they know that because republicans in congress have their back and working hard to ensure republicans will have control when those two new districts and they again, eliminated even a majority minority district already there. so now they're going from eight to seven and what is frustrating is that democrats are seeing this and just watc...

Gerrymandering and the author of "unrigged: how americans battled back to save democracy." it's great to have you with us. let's talk about texas and what's going on for a moment. these huge demographic shifts, they're not being reflected in the maps. that's just a fact. plus that state is dealing with a new restrictive voting law. how hard is it going to be for democrats there to overcome this? and is even -- is overcoming this even possible at this point? >> well, it'll be tough. i worked at the justice department during the last redistricting cycle where we had preclearance. and you might r...

Geographic realities have changed over the course of the decade. you use the census data as a road map and that is how you know the maps are fair and reflecting what the voters want in that state. >> as i mentioned anti-trump republican adam kinzinger would be remapped into a left leaning congressional district in illinois under those maps. have a listen to what he had to say today about why he voted against the john lewis voting rights act. >> the voting rights act in the mid '60s came out with a temporary provision called preclearance which required certain states to get clearance for any ch...