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Met based on that meeting with senator joe manchin? >> i'm not sure i understand there are procedural things that still have to get worked out within the senate democratic caucus here in congress. so we don't know the details of that. but we certainly press that we have weeks, a very short window of time and our special session ends on august 8. we know that governor abbott will immediately call another one. >> can you just tell us quickly, you know, in a few seconds if you don't mind specifically what narrow measures you want to see taken? >> well, we have to have preclearance. over time ther...

Bernovic ruling. >> the landscape for folks, whether they're justice department lawyers or civil rights litigators in private practice who seek to push back against these new state legislative moves that are an overreach, that cut into folks' rights to vote is very bleak because of what the supreme court has done. in 2013 in shelby county versus holder, the supreme court gutted a procedure called preclearance. preclearance was a requirement that the justice department or three judges in the district of columbia reviewed challenged new provisions in state legislatures and make sure they weren't...

Easier for folks to exercise their right to vote, as well as hr-4, the john lewis voting rights act which would restore essentially what shelby county took away, restoring preclearance and making it more difficult for people to discriminate against folks who are just trying to exercise their right to vote. >> mike memoli, we learned last hour via a white house official that vice president harris is going to be meeting with that group of texas democrats who left the state to block those republican-backed voting restrictions. president biden has made voting rights part of her portfolio. what can...

And neither congress nor the courts can be counted on to protect voting rights, especially for communities of color, who often see them infringed. where do we go from here? >> look, rev, i did appreciate your exchange with steny hoyer about this, because what oui seen with roberts is not only this decision where conservative justices have really shown up and shown out for the gop essentially, empowering states to go even further, but we also know in 2013 they took away section 5 with a preclearance with the doj. and so now i don't think advocates are ready to give up on congressional action. w...

>> well, first of all, the shelby decision based on the voting rights act was back in 2013, chris. we should have been working on this and we've had an awful lot of time for whatever reason and never came up to the point to where people thought they had to do anything. who would do anything as outrageous as what we're seeing after the 20120 election? so we could have gotten -- i think the directions from john roberts who wrote the opinion was basically correct how you evaluate and basically how you write your formula -- >> to remind the audience, senator, because you and i are a little too rea...