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The presidency was. >> hold on a second. but you talk about torture. >> right. >> when you talk about torture and you talk about dick cheney, i guess what i find most offensive over the past two, three years -- and the drone argument's a good example -- is how progressives slam george w. bush and dick cheney and talked about the shame of the bush/cheney years while turning a blind eye, for the most part, to the shame of the obama years -- >> not this magazine. not at all. >> -- for following through on most of dick cheney's terror policies. >> not at all. not at all. not at all. i don't know w...

When barack obama lost the first debate very clearly, we weren't deluded about that. the cover of this magazine was mitt romney debating an empty chair. i think it's possible to have politics in a magazine but also to see things clear and be tough-minded about power that's in power. and we have been about barack obama, whether it's on afghanistan, whether it's on finance, whether it's on predator drones. which is something that concerns you. which is why i'm surprised that you're so shocked that we would set the context for obama's presidency, which is you follow somebody. you have a set of pr...

In these issues. >> i think a lot of us felt that way. >> this job is the commander in chief. and he looked like a guy who had prepped the night before and was kind of just filled in on these issues. >> by the way, i do, just to clarify, i do consider "the new yorker" to be a leader in shaping opinion on the left, just like i consider charles krauthammer to be a leader shaping opinion on the right. you may not like that analogy. i consider it a compliment. i think you guys -- i think on both sides. >> but there's a difference between an opinion magazine and one that's dominated by reporting. >...

People in countries indiscriminately where we haven't even declared war. if you talk about gitmo remaining open. listen, we can have a debate over whether we have to be clear-eyed realists and be this ruthless in this new war. fine. and i'm not going to say that you hate the constitution and you want to shred the constitution, and you subvert american values. i'm not just talking you here. >> yeah. >> if you agree with what dick cheney, george w. bush and barack obama have chosen to do since 9/11. i just find the hypocrisy from the left galling. >> you may, but, in fact -- >> i should. >> but ...

About whoever the preceding president was. >> that's pretty strong language. >> it is. >> let's talk about that shame. >> i think the shame of the bush years has to do with iraq. i think it has to do with a mission in afghanistan that went awry because iraq was ignored. it has to do with to be torture kinds of policies. you know what the litany is. and i watched you the other day -- >> i do. >> -- and you brought up quite reasonably predator drones. the magazine was also very early on investigative reporting about predator drones. this is not somebody -- this is not a magazine that is there to...