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erin mclaughlin joins us now from the london bridge. good morning to you. what are we learning about this attack? >> reporter: good morning, dara. a key question being asked in london is how could this have happened, especially when you consider that the suspect, 28-year-old usman khan, was convicted of plotting a terrorist attack in 2012. he was plotting to bomb the london stock exchange, as well as the u.s. embassy among other locations and he was convicted of that plot, serving time in prison, released early, and electronically tagged, and we're also learning from security sources that he was actually participating in a prisoner rehabilitation workshop, at the fishmonger's hall, which is adjacent to the london bridge, on the morning of the attack. speaking out about his own prison experience, hours later, launching the deadly rampage before being pulled to the ground by ordinary people on that bridge, and this morning,
it's addiction recovery counseling. >> it's a four-month program which is a state-of-the-art addiction treatment program. it's the first one ever in the world as far as we know that's completely run and has counselors who are inmates, who are trained inmates. >> it's one thing to sit across the desk from somebody in a suit and tie who's not in recovery, who's never been there, that doesn't have -- know the first thing about getting busted, going to a county jail or going through a prison experience. it's a whole other thing when you've got a guy sitting across from them, right, that's been there. that can totally relate to what this guy's saying. >> in addition to helping his fellow inmates, rusty hopes his efforts may influence his parole. >> i worked my points down through the years after coming into a level 2 facility, and i've been to the board 17 times. i've received 17 one-year denials. i've been disciplinary-free for
named paul manafort? because this concern about manafort's prison experience is for a convicted felon, thousands of people at rikers haven't been convicted of anything. they're simply awaiting trial. they are presumed innocent. they just don't have the money for bail. the federal stats show often those people, majority of inmates are just awaiting trial. where is the trump doj's concern for all of them? on this story, i bring in matt miller who worked at the doj under president obama and jason johnson back with us. jason, your view on what this kind of story reveals? >> the inherent corruption of this administration and the dishonesty honesty in our public discourse about prison. rikers is a problem. rikers has all sorts of abuses. paul manafort was not going to be in gin pop, writing lyrics on toilet paper about how his family got popped and locked up. he would be protected in a way
for, oh, geez -- probably about 18 years now, 19 years. but the current program i'm in, it's called a.r.c. it's addiction recovery counseling. >> it's a four-month program which is a state-of-the-art addiction treatment program. it's the first one ever in the world as far as we know that's completely run and has counselors who are inmates, who are trained inmates. >> it's one thing to sit across the desk from somebody in a suit and tie who's not in recovery, who's never been there, that doesn't have -- know the first thing about getting busted, going to a county jail or going through a prison experience. it's a whole other thing when you've got a guy sitting across from them, right, that's been there. that can totally relate to what this guy's saying. >> in addition to helping his fellow inmates, rusty hopes his efforts may influence his parole. >> i worked my points down through the years after coming into a level 2 facility, and
it's called a.r.c. it's addiction recovery counseling. >> it's a four-month program which is a state-of-the-art addiction treatment program. it's the first one ever in the world as far as we know that's completely run and has counselors who are inmates, who are trained inmates. >> it's one thing to sit across the desk from somebody in a suit and tie who's not in recovery, who's never been there, that doesn't have -- know the first thing about getting busted, going to a county jail or going through a prison experience. it's a whole other thing when you've got a guy sitting across from them, right, that's been there. that can totally relate to what this guy's saying. >> in addition to helping his fellow inmates, rusty hopes his efforts may influence his parole. >> i worked my points down through the years after coming into a level 2 facility, and i've been to the board 17 times.
serving six months for a white collar crime, he asked to remain anonymous. >> we are small country. we are not rich country like america or like england. this condition for our country is okay. it could be better, but it's okay, this prison experience. i'm going to be another man. i'm going to be looking about freedom in another way. to appreciate freedom. to appreciate to walk in the park. to drink coke. to see birds, sky. freedom is freedom. that's all. >> while cz's urban setting and concrete surroundings make some long for simple pleasures, our crew headed deeper into serbia and found a prison that except for the razor wire was almost a natural paradise. live-stream your favorite sport,
world as far as we know that's completely run and has counselors who are inmates, who are trained inmates. >> it's one thing to sit across the desk from somebody in a suit and tie who's not in recovery, who's never been there, that doesn't have -- know the first thing about getting busted, going to a county jail or going through a prison experience. it's a whole other thing when you've got a guy sitting across from them, right, that's been there. that can totally relate to what this guy's saying.
it's called arc, it's addiction recovery counseling. >> it's a four-month program which is a state of the art addiction treatment program. it's the first one ever in the world as far as we know that's completely run and has counselors who are inmates, who are trained inmates. >> it's one thing to sit across the desk from somebody in a suit and tie who is not in recovery, who has never been there, that doesn't have -- know the first thing about getting busted going in a county jail or going through a prison experience. it's a whole 'nother thing when you've got a guy sitting across from him, right, that's been there, that can totally relate to what this guy is saying. >> in addition to helping his fellow inmates, rusty hopes his efforts may influence his parole. >> i work my points down through the years after coming into a level 2 facility, and i've been to the board 17 times. i've received 17 one-year