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the inside of these prisoner transport vans look like. here's part of my conversation. >> we're able to transport ten prisoners total, five on each side. the dimensions of the van is ten feet deep by five feet wide with a metal partition down the middle. the height is approximately four feet. >> so i see that -- >> once the transporting officer -- i'm sorry, go ahead. >> forgive me. there's one half that you're about to hop into. then there's another half. there's a metal partition down the middle. >> that's right. that way we have the capability of separating prisoners if we need to. once the arresting or transporting officer takes a prisoner inside the van, the van is equipped with ten seat belts all the way down. so typically a prisoner would be handcuffed behind their back. the transporting officer would then seat belt the prisoner into the van for safety.
altercations among any of the suspects on either side or is that not an issue since they're likely handcuffed and strapped in? >> that's typically not an issue because they are secured as well as strapped into the position on the bench. >> okay. i'm going to stay with your picture, captain. thank you so much for just walking me through this. this helps us understanding what it would look like when a suspect is placed in one of these prisoner transport vans. steven rodgers is a retired police officer from new jersey. lieutenant -- and let's take another look inside that van. as we walk through, you know, you've driven -- >> i haven't driven it but i've been in transports like that. the officer explained it well but you brought up a good point, brooke. if there was a camera in there, we would not be here today discussing this. and one of the objectives of a transport is to make sure that not only is the prisoner secure, but the prisoner is safe.