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gonzalez. this is consuming our society. what is it? our second guest former lieutenant governor of new york, betsy mccoy, right now a few weeks ago, biden administration triggered the destruction of the suburbs and ex burbs, we need to get into this but first "new york times," prosecutor seek trump lawyer testimony, suggesting evidence of crime says that justice department -- >> this i may say mark for god's sake my eyes are glazing over, no, this is a fundamental right, have you ever had a lawyer, any case, you might want day. and and are your communications with that lawyer going ...

Using this privilege is being asserted to cover-up on going be on obstruction and criminal activity. so why is smith doing that? he got burned in the edwards trial. and he figures let me get ahead of the curve, and access to what this lawyer cochran and trump have talked about, and i will utes the crime fraud exception, ladies and gentlemen this is an apuce of the crime fraud exception to attorney-client priv lprivilege. he has no evidence whatsoever. unless he has violated the attorney-client privilege with other lawyers who are surrounding donald trump, so far mr. smith called in three lawye...