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From testifying on capitol hill. it's interesting about absolute immunity, this is something different than executive privilege. the white house in the past has wanted to preserve executive impressive leprivilege but they invoked it yet. here is interesting about this in the context of the mueller report, absolute immunity comes from nixon versus fitzgerald but it protected the president from civil suits, from civil suits. it seems as though they are taking this '73 court and this decision from the supreme court back then and expanding it and protecting it and trying to apply to it all aides, ...

Huckabee sanders to be interviewed, she giving her investigation that is intended for the public, no privilege. >> in a is such an interesting point you raise. there are people who at least have a claim to executive privile privilege. you saying she might be valuable because she doesn't have that private role, they could only emit. >> a lot of the taxpayers have attorneys. when they would talk to the irs it is not privileged what he would say to the attorney. that is deep trouble for the president of the united states,

Politics and they should not ask him to talk about private conference in a public saving. what do they leave wolf owl these? >> it is a value aversion of privile privilege. that was the famous nixon's case where he was ordered to turn over the tapes. he said i can't do it. it was litigated and the supreme court 8-0, president nixon you lose. >> it is a real thing, not a fake thing. it does not apply to every conversation and the law recognizes there are system

Privile privilege. and you happen to be coming of age during one of those moments. it did not start with donald trump. he is a symptom, not the cause. >> let me start with that last line, christina, if i could. he's saying president trump, a symptom, not a cause. do you agree with that? >> i do, fundamentally. we know we've had a very long history in this nation of exclusion. we've had genocides. we've had chattel slavery. our democracy is not just young but fragile. there are a lot of things we thought were institutions and they're actually just norms. framers planned for this type of preside...

He is certainly pushing forth racist language and pushing forth racially adverse policies. at some point we have to call it for what it is. it's racism. >> there is agreement that he does seek to inflame racial tensions for political benefit. i think that is without a doubt that plays out again and again, angela, as you pointed out. he did it in the papers when he was a businessman to build up his name in new york city. he continues to do it to this day. we can debate if he's a racist or we can just reject the effect of what he's doing outright. that would get us a lot further. >> i think that...