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Withdrawal, that's not enough? >> i think it has to be the beginning of a withdrawal that's significant. the president made that promise. i know he will keep it. he understands that our role in the world has to be defined and specific. we see that in libya. and that we can't engage as we have in the past in these massive troop commitments that go on indefinitely. >> would you put a number on what the withdrawal has to be by july? >> it's hard for me to say that. i don't want to endanger troops that there are. i think what the americans are looking for and the president is looking for is a clea...

>> i think it has to be the beginning of a withdrawal that's significant. the president made that promise. i know he will keep it. he understands that our role in the world has to be defined and specific. we see that in libya. and that we can't engage as we have in the past in these massive troop commitments that go on indefinitely. >> would you put a number on what the withdrawal has to be by july? >> it's hard for me to say that. i don't want to endanger troops that there are. i think what the americans are looking for and the president is looking for is a clear indication we're coming home....

Difficult and tough political position. i see the problems he's facing. we have to put this behind us. we agreed on a number as to the cut. now we have to agree on the component parts of it and move forward. at the end of the day the american people don't care who has bragging rights at the end of this. they want to make certain we're responsible and work together, both political parties, to meet a national challenge. >> all right. people understand that, but go behind the curtain here. what has to give? for instance, democrats are pretty upset with the so-called riders in the spending cut leg...