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>> this is not new in politics unfortunately. i wish there was another argument for it but there isn't. the process argument for republicans now really comes down to how long they can sustain this. >> i do think there's a reason why democrats might want to open some of this up because it creates more of a nonpartisan feel to all of it. it innoculates them so there might be reasons why democrats want to consider that side of the argument. hypocracy abounds depending on whether it works for one party or not and we're seeing that around the process surrounding the impeachment hearings now. >> let...

Yeah, i mean, there's -- there's so many comparisons to do of, like, they said this during ben becau ghazi, now they're saying this. it gets old. play the clips of lindsey graham speaking at the clinton impeachment and now saying the exact opposite thing. i also think that's sort of what politicians do. that doesn't really knock my socks off. mostly i'm surprised at how much republicans are steering clear of any substantive defense of the president on the facts of this -- of the impeachment probe and how all they're left with is a process argument and the limits of a process argument as we've ...

At being the speaker. yeah, i mean, there's so many comparisons to do of like they said this during benghazi and now they're saying this. it gets old. you can play the clips that lindsey graham is speaking at the clinton impeachment and saying the exact opposite thing but i also think that's sort of what politicians do. that doesn't really knock my socks off. mostly i'm surprised at how much republicans are steering clear of any substantive defense of the president on the facts of the impeachment probe and how all they're left with is a process argument and the limits of a process argument tha...

Not new in politics, unfortunately. i, you know, wish that there was another argument for it but there really isn't. look, the process argument for republicans now really comes down to how much longer they can sort of sustain this given that public hearings are going to begin. the reporting out there is that we're going to see public hearings on impeachment in mid-november. i do think there is a prudential argument. there is a reason why democrats might want to open some of this up because it creates more of a nonpartisan feel to all of it. it inoculates them a little bit against the argument ...

Any investigation because of the house majority rules work the way they do. they are not the ones issuing subpoenas. but they are basically being given equal time. it goes either 45 minutes, 45 minutes, democrats, republicans or an hour and an hour and goes back and forth until everyone has exhausted what they want to ask of the witnesses coming in behind closed doors. that standard practice has not changed in the structure of how these impeachment depositions and interviews are going forward. republicans are going to continue to try to make this process argument, try to take a principled stan...