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Say this is getting weird r aer the day. >> republicans continue to say what new evidence, ali? representative mark meadows, one of the president's biggest supporter was on fox news saying exactly that that there was no new evidence and any new evidence he says shows the president made the right decision in withholding this aid to ukraine. and so, we can't move forward. we can expect republicans continue to defend this president strongly and also continues to make these process arguments talking about how this a is a sham impeachment process and democrats have nothing they want to impeach the ...

Process arguments to stop this than they do evidentiary arguments. and i think they kind of know this. >> well, for me, look, i'm a political hack. i do campaigns. and where i think, for me, being completely political in campaign is look at where the polling is going on this. look at -- chuck -- chuck -- but, chuck, check this out. in georgia right now, majority of college voters in georgia right now are for impeachment. georgia is supposedly a red state. so when you talk about the slide that republicans have had in the suburbs, this is not helping them, right? when you have college-educated v...

Being the one that attacked our election, that donald trump was trying to get ukraine to make seem real with an investigation. >> i thought their tactics were shameful, and it was, of course, disappointed that they would choose to again engage in some of these frivolous process arguments. but of course, they know all too well that they can't defend the substance, that ultimately, the facts are uncontested and that they cannot defend the egregiousness of this president's conduct, and so they chose to engage in some of the high jinks that you referenced. again, i think chairman schiff did a terr...

Republicans. they weren't allowed to ask questions. it's a very sad thing. >> i -- that even somehow comes across more tone deaf after what he did today and after all the praise the republicans lavished on her. >> right. they had a clear game plan going into this. stick with their process arguments. keep praise of the ambassador. make it clear she wasn't there. this was a hearsay witness and that's it. he just keeps stepping on rakes out there. >> the thing about it is, is that, you know, there are people who are watching obviously a lot of people. but there are people who are also going to be...

Terrible fact pattern for him and you could tell it was a terrible fact pattern by watching the arguments that the republicans were putting out that were not going to the main point which was that the president had this call, that the aid was held up and there was a lot of conversation that suggested why it was being held up, you know, there were process arguments being made and there were arguments about president obama and there were arguments about hunter biden, but you know, they don't really have a good answer to the main argument, and i think that that has to be concerning to everybody a...