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Interview, they're late, which is unusual for this part -- this process. and, look, i know i'm not alone in this, you are the only -- i believe i was the only minority interview. and just the entire process doesn't feel like you're an actual candidate. and that's unfortunate. >> the rooney rule states for head coach vacancies, they have to interview two minority candidates. but you felt that you were there as a number. they weren't taking you seriously. they showed up late, you thought maybe they had been drinking the night before, just so people know, the denver broncos deny this, they say th...

Brian daboll. sor, i f-ed this up. i think they are naming daboll. i am sorry about that. >> it was humiliating to be honest. there was disbelief. there was anger. >> flores and his lawyers argue the interview was just a formality, so the team looked as though it was considering a minority candidate when it really wasn't. the league man dates teams interview majorities under what's called the rooney rule. the new york giants are pushing back saying brian flores was in discussion to be our head coach until the 11th hour. it's not just the giants flores is accusing in his lawsuit. he claims the ...

Equally revealing, but revealing and interesting when a witness won't answer a question. >> i think you're also paying close attention to developments involving the former vice president. we know the committee has been interesting in speaking to him. do we know where tonight those negotiations stand? >> i think they're still negotiating. we don't know yet. there are some people from pence world who have told us that there is no chance in hell that he is going to testify. there are other sources in pence world who have told me they are trying to work something out, that the vice -- former vice ...

Process doesn't ensure you get more information from mr. meadows how are you going to ensure that? >> that was senator thompson getting into the elevator after saying that information will come out eventually. we'll find out who some of these lawmakers were and we know some were actively rooting for the insurrection including after the danger had passed voting to try to overturn elections in several states. this is a scandal that is multi part and it is eventually, i don't know if you agree, i feel like this is going to whip through the house and the united states senate as names are revealed....

0 swing. be vigilant and informed about your own health. that does it for us. "the reidout" with joe reid is -- joy reid is up next. hi, joy. >> have a wonderful evening. much appreciated. good evening. you're looking at the room where members of the house select committee on january 6th will soon be gathering for a special meeting. in this hour they will vote in a measure to refer criminal charges for donald trump's former chief of staff. mark meadows who defied their subpoena. they'll also be discussing the damming new evidence they gathered that sheds light on trump's attempted coup and mea...