interview, they're late, which is unusual for this part -- this process. and, look, i know i'm not alone in this, you are the only -- i believe i was the only minority interview. and just the entire process doesn't feel like you're an actual candidate. and that's unfortunate. >> the rooney rule states for head coach vacancies, they have to interview two minority candidates. but you felt that you were there as a number. they weren't taking you seriously. they showed up late, you thought maybe they had been drinking the night before, just so people know, the denver broncos deny this, they say the allegations from flores directed toward the broncos are blatantly false, they say they showed up on time, et cetera. the giants as you were talking about them, they said we interviewed an impressive and diverse group of candidates. the fact of the matter is brian was in the conversation to be