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presidentjose ramos—horta, welcome to hardtalk. thank you for having me. it is a great pleasure to have you in the studio. i think it's fair to say you've given most of your life to the struggle for freedom in timor—leste, east timor, as we used to know it, and you have served as its president, not just once, but twice. you decided to come back in 2022 to seek the presidency again. was that a tough decision, to come back? yes. on a personal basis, yes. it was not in my plan, but then mr xanana gusmao, now prime minister, whom i deeply respect, he asked me to run again... ..to put...

presidentjose ramos—horta, welcome to hardtalk. thank you for having me. it is a great pleasure to have you in the studio. i think it's fair to say you've given most of your life to the struggle for freedom in timor—leste, east timor, as we used to know it, and you have served as its president, not just once, but twice. you decided to come back in 2022 to seek the presidency again. was that a tough decision, to come back? yes. on a personal basis, yes. it was not in my plan, but then mr xanana gusmao, now prime minister, whom i deeply respect, he asked me to run again... ..to put...

learn from his extraordinary life? presidentjose ramos—horta, welcome to hardtalk. thank you for having me. it is a great pleasure to have you in the studio. i think it's fair to say you've given most of your life to the struggle for freedom in timor—leste, east timor, as we used to know it, and you have served as its president, notjust once, but twice. you decided to come back in 2022 to seek the presidency again. was that a tough decision, to come back? yes. on a personal basis, yes. it was not in my plan, but then mr xanana gusmao, now prime minister, whom i deeply respect, he...

are there lessons for the world to learn from his extraordinary life? presidentjose ramos—horta, welcome to hardtalk. thank you for having me. it is a great pleasure to have you in the studio. i think it's fair to say you've given most of your life to the struggle for freedom in timor—leste, east timor, as we used to know it, and you have served as its president, not just once, but twice. you decided to come back in 2022 to seek the presidency again. was that a tough decision, to come back? yes. on a personal basis, yes. it was not in my plan, but then mr xanana gusmao, now prime...

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