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frontrunners for the 2024 republican nomination, even though only one of them is officially in the race. ahead, a veteran gop strategist explains why desantis is stealing some of trump's thunder. meanwhile, election deniers are celebrating after three states pulled out of a program to protect voter rolls with two more states considering joining them. we'll explain this latest development. plus, we'll go through the changes norfolk southern is making following the derailment of two of its trains in ohio. and we'll ask transportation secretary pete buttigieg about the federal res...

President donald trump's false claims of voter fraud after the 2020 election. supporters of e.r.i.c. say if the program collapses, the country would lose a powerful tool in protecting against ballot fraud, just as states start preparing for the 2024 elections. >> all right. listen, you know, mike barnicle, i absolutely hate, i really do, i hate talking about other networks. there's a lot we could talk about with other networks. but you can't tell this story without at least briefly touching on "the new york times" story that took us behind the scenes at fox news. having people at fox news fire...

State websites, but it actually enrolled. you have to apply first,ñiñi and then you have to find out whether you have eligibility, and then you enroll. having said that, 476,000 applications, does that indicate that perhaps this is less of a mess and that republicans are overstating the problem? >> you know, they need to get seven million people on this thing. at the rate they're going, even by their own numbers, it's not going to get there. many of these people that filled this out have made mistakes. some won't qualify. there is a lot of work to be done in terms of getting people on there ...

But it doesn't say how many have enrolled and you have to apply first and known you have to find if you are eligible and then you enroll. having said that, 476,000 politicians, does that indicate that, perhaps, this is less of a mess and republicans are overstating the republican? >> they need to get seven million people on this thing so by their own numbers it is not going to get there. many of these petroleum have filled it out and some will not qualify. there is a lot of work to be done in getting other people on there and there is no mechanism to do that. if enough people did not sign up f...

Americans on disability. how much longer can this trend continue before the whole program collapses. >> that's a lot of numbers there. >> sorry to throw them all out at you. a lot of people on disability. >> the time now is 5 minutes until the top of the hour. coming up next, an nfl wide receiver is facing double trouble. he got raised not once but twice in the same day. vietnam in 1972. [ all ] fort benning, georgia in 1999. [ male announcer ] usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation. because it offers a superior level of protection and because usaa's commitment ...