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Right outcomes that the department and the Housing Providers on the street really reels or building are the best to look at were looking at more than a one year t there are anonymously i want to hear from our prospective do you think it is a good multi year kind of process look at outcomes, and, secondly it it seems to me that some coordination between the departments and the provider to see up front in front of a contract those are the things we want to look at it and have a discussion that you know of what the outcomes are their ones we can measure and fit on the street i think the board of ...

Both h s a and the other agency those are still heavily focused on conceptual compliance and we need what is more expensive conceptual comparison of outcomes u outcomes across buildings and vendors and the city s is currently engaged in our Main Findings and speaking to the concerns youve raised supervisor farrell we believe at this time master lease and nonprofit support housing are necessary components of the system because the master lease unit do make up 2 3rds of Supportive Housing portfolio and 3 thousand unit at this time it is less expensive and more available than the nonprofit housin...

Available unit in San Francisco versus nonprofit owned is a longer period to develop the unit but ultimately over time well use the public fund a. M. Intents over one hundred years and our market in San Francisco versus nonprofit that owned assuming we pay for it over a long period of time that the city might smooth out a little bit more; is that correct. The asset for the master less lease i think weve looked at the mart lease per unit 3 hundred to 350,000 per unit per average those will go up but the other thing i dont have the specific numbers but the master costs are increasing by quite a ...

Lot. The scare you part is that commissioner arce, youre absolutely right. They could set the not to exceed rate next week. They could move forward with a Shell Program and no other program, which as i said is only less than 4 of what we envision. So, but with that said, the reason that advocates have recently voted and said to the sfpuc and to lafco we would like them to proceed with these not to exceed rates is because they are now competitive with pg e. Especially if you compare it to a pg e green rate. And what ms. Malcolm proposed to us tonight are rates that will probably be even more co...

Kaiserious concerns. Those are concerns that have nothing to do with the not to exceed rate. They have other program designs and we can continue to have this discussion. You doughthv need a resolution to have that continued discussion. Simply ask the puc staff, i am 100 willing to bet with anyone that ken malcolm and anyone else with the puc would be willing to come back and have those discussions with you here or if you want to have more sitdown meetings one on one with any of you that have questions, we can do all of this. I think what youre about to do is going to seriously harm this progra...