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>> anita: good point. katie, let me have you respond. >> president biden has a lot of things he can do here to stop the flow from coming. the truth is the administration is fine with it because they don't want to take on a their progressive base which thinks that the border should be wide open. the fact is, the border was closed under president trump. for political reasons, the biden administration decided to reject every single policy position that was working for the sake of saying they're repealing what they call president trump's inhumane policies. when there's thousands of people sleeping...

Did it come at allenating the pro progressive base? so, i consider the campaign is feeling confident about this strategy to appeal to these split-ticket voters tonight. >> all right, eva mckend, with raphael warnock at his headquarters. let's go to jeff zeleny right now in herschel walker's headquarters. how did that campaign feel about the campaign strategy? they were obviously knocked off course several times because of herschel walker's scandleses in his personal life. >> they were indeed. and despite that, jake, herschel walker still came within 37,000 votes of besting senator raphael warn...

Also being true. there is more diversity and size of these other states. it is important for african americans to have stronger voices in the nominating contest. all of these things happen to be true and, yes, obama benefited from the iowa caucuses, but the second time around, south carolina was happy to embrace him and the first time around it was up closer than anybody thought it would be. black democrats in south carolina fell in love with barack obama in 2008 and were really divided between the clinton dynasty -- >> john edwards in there -- >> complicated. you're right. i think aside from ...

The progressive base. do you think that it's part of that bipartisan pressure to make the white house rethink this? >> i do not know. i know he doesn't listen to republicans, he doesn't listen to those of us that talk about this, so i don't know if you will listen to democrats, many of them it is a political issue. and i know that it is about policy because they know that communities are being overrun, hispanic voters are coming to the party rapidly. and there are a lot of issues, but this is an issue with those in the border region. >> we have seen polling that many highly disagree with the p...

Timing is important on this matter. >> so that leaves us back at the question of what is the democrat's end game? moments ago the white house confirmed that president biden will attend the caucus lunch to discuss the push to pass voting rights and potential changes to senate rules. right now members of the congressional black caucus are about to hold a news conference as the progressive base grows increasingly frustrated with the lack of action on this issue. the big questions about the path forward for the party. how do they get stuck arguing amongst themselves so much about procedure instead...