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Causing the cycles of poverty and pathologies and we have to look at it, as a prohibition problem. >> well, to the extent that the dreamers are beginning to create pressure for congress, it is because they borrowed another thing from a different movement, and not only the kids' part of the civil rights movement, but the coming out of the closet part of the lgbt movement saying i'm notes a shamed to be undocumented, but this is how i am contributing. so what does media or journalism do as part of the social action. >> when i am talking to the dreamers or the activists in arizona what is clear t...

Enforce and what can be eradicated through enforcement and what cannot be. i want you to talk about what your experience on the front lines was of the plausibility or possibility of enforcement as a means of actually coming to some point in which we have declared victory or won the war on drugs. >> it's simply not going to happen. everyone involved in this knows we can't win. we can sort of the maintain the violence status quo that involves lots of incarceration but it doesn't reduce the violence. just in the last 16 hours there were three shootings and a double stack. you're probably not goin...

If you get the nomination, those people will vote for you anyway. and pivot, and i actually think, perversely, you can make an argument, the best chance for comprehensive immigration reform would essentially be a republican punking his own base on the issue. >> i think that he's actually doning it correctly right now. which is similar to what john mccain did back in 2007. remember, his campaign was almost torpedoed by hostility towards his work on a comprehensive immigration campaign. >> yep, kennedy. >> which he then disavowed and started running and voting against the individual parts of it....