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The Five

they said i don't care what your politics are, this is what is happening in the city. jose albasaid, i'm not a republican or democrat, i'm here because this happened to me and he is worried it will happen to other people. >> jessica: remember the woman who had the baby carriage hit, she was a liberal. she said nothing to do with politics, they tried to kill my kid and me, too, and that is how people feel. few issues transcend politics and crime happens to be one of them. >> greg: you said -- >> jessica: i think it does, the approach to how parties deal with it and talk about people and who they are trying to demonize are so stark that you do end up looking at them differently. to the point this was a show trial this morning, i was happy the entire cohort of democrats showed up to do this. >> dana: they haven't to others.

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this is charade, cover-up for donald trump. this is not about a charade. this is about people living their lives in front of the rest of us and the sooner we decide there has to be a plan to turn this around, sooner kids go online and post we're going to go out, steal, beat people up, jump on are cas, break down buses, we're going to have fights and have car spins and in california, they actually passed a law specific to what they are doing with these -- what do they call them, greg? u-turns when they get the cars. >> dana: they spin them around. >> greg: i love you think i would know the answer to that, i actually don't. >> jeanine: there is a new crime that outlaws it and it is time to put kids in jail. >> dana: jessica, feel free to you can ta-about whatever you want, but i noticed this morning, each witness in new york gave opening statement,

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and his grandkid, the one grandkid he recognizes, dana. the trip reinforces opimism about running. he was arrested and now can run. i agree with what will was saying, i was stunned at percentage of independents who are outnumbering both republicans and democrats. people are fed up with the parties, fed up with politics, i think people see issues not as right or left, but real issue. can i pay for food on the table? crime is a real issue. i don't care if it is alvin bragg or rudy giuliani prosecuting crime, i want it to stop. what we've got is joe biden who is the lone car driver in the democrat lane and you know, he's at the lowest number he's ever been, i think 40 right now, one of the lowest numbers donald

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opportunity in their own communities. i disagree. it is time to demonize them and send them to jail. i'm tired of the old argument, is it parents or school or the police who should be in charge? right now when you're in a public area and you cause this mayhem and anarchy, this is when law enforcement has to come in and there has to be consequences and the way they started the hearing in new york, dana, congressman jerome nadler talks about this is about somebody else, dan goldman ran for congress, i'm a former prosecutor and i know how to prosecute crime. he comes out and says your experiences to the mother we just heard who painfully described what happened, your experiences are devastating,

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crime is worse than here. >> dana: this is first of many hearings. >> jessica: i'm sure they will be in jim jordan's hometown next. >> they thought next stop would be chicago. talk about the comparison of crime as compared to choice to book, indict and go after a presidential candidate for bookkeeping, we won't call it error, bookkeeping violation, it shows perverted sense of priority in new york. here is the thing, you can't stop an act if you can't describe an act. greg, i saw the same thing you did in that, my focus on the choice of words. lori lightfoot said i wouldn't choose to call it mayhem. glad you have taken that moral stance, how about mayor elect brandon johnson said listen to this sinister choice of words,

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chair said, since i'm glutton for punishment and i will get weirdo replies, i would look at behave your of young people as political act and statement, mas protest against poverty and segregation, which guarantees the 15 people arrested, he wouldn't blame them for crime committed. >> jeanine: there is disconnect between what people are saying and what is upon haing on the street. they try to convince us of this in new york when kathy hochul ran for governor. it is a perception problem in chicago. the day after this happened, chicago police encouraged people to enjoy what the city has to offer a day after the teen chaos. let me make one thing perfectly clear. you can have people come out and say like brandon johnson did, the new mayor of chicago, it is not constructive to demonize the youth who have been starved of

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>> jessica: they haven't to others. they pointed out the fact that jim jordan represents somewhere the crime rates are higher than new york city, kevin mccarthy, bakersfield, more chance of being a victim if you live there than in new york city. they should have meetings in memphis, st. louis, go to toledo. alabama, what went on was heart heartwrenching. >> jeanine: the sweet 16 party. >> jessica: or honor roll kid that gets shot in the head. this is not about new york city. they turned it into that because of alvin bragg. they wanted to show cruelty to donald trump at this moment, he is saying alvin bragg is coming for him. if they cared about crime, they would show up in a city where

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appropriate. there were a few that came with different intention and they have and will be dealt with. i will not use your language, which i think is wrong, to say it is mayhem. >> dana: chicago chaos as crime makes more chaos in new york city and republicans holding a hearing that features victims of liberal policies. >> all types of criminal elements free to do what they want, when they want, however they want to whomever they want with no consequences, no deterrence. >> do you believe the criminals who murdered your son received justice? >> absolutely not. there should be no plea deals for murder. >> do you feel your family was treated appropriately in the criminal justice system? >> absolutely not, we were treated like garbage. >> dana: greg, here on a monday, a lot of crime blows up, especially in chicago on the weekend, your take on the chicago scene or the new york

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safe guess because we talk about chicago and talk about the crime that is going on there that is affecting black minorities and families most. republicans say you can do anything as long as you get education and stay out of trouble, the world is your oyster and the left does the opposite. you can't do anything, racism is ever-present overwhelming obstacle. what does that do? it tells young kids that they can do anything. that they can go out and beat the crap out of innocent people and loot and destroy property because their life is already screwed. right? their life is already over, there is unspeakable obstacle in front of them, it doesn't matter what they do, so they throw away their lives with stupid behavior. >> dana: judge, comment whatever you want, but the black caucus

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The Beat With Ari Melber

cases by dominion. it is one type of legal punishment for basically lying. but to win them you have to prove the defendant, in this case, giuliani, you have to prove he knew he was lying. so this new evidence he made under oath, he didn't think the machine stole the election while saying the opposite otherwise against these very voting machine groups, well, that could be a death blow in the defamation case while these other alleged ring leaders, giuliani included, faced this criminal referral process and more legal heat. as a story, there are some ironies here, a man who famed prosecuting crime is accused a crime. a man who was once truly a skilled lawyer in the courtroom is now defined by -- i was thinking about this today. he's defined by an entire plot that was built on losing in court, but using that process to launder the lies out of court in

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