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Done enough to galvanise the west and it may end up as a proxy war and during— and it may end up as a proxy war and during the— and it may end up as a proxy war and during the cold war, the cold war never_ during the cold war, the cold war never really got hot but their proxy wars all _ never really got hot but their proxy wars all of — never really got hot but their proxy wars all of the war. and where communist forces and us forces pitted _ communist forces and us forces pitted against each other within a national— pitted against each other within a national contest. the idea that pe...

Sanction relief money, billions and billions it was over $130 billion the last time, what will they do with that money? the last time they used it to topple the regime in yemen and fuel proxy wars in the middle east. we believe with certainty that that's what they will do with this money again. they will buy rockets and missiles to pour down on saudi arabia. rockets and missiles for hamas and hezbollah to do the same with israel and fuel the civil war in syria. that's what the money will go for. that kind of may lined behavior. it destabilizes the region. >> dana: we started the show talking w...

This, whether we like it or not, his perception that we've crossed a line that creates, you know, american■ç obligation or american involvement in this war? >> if you go back even to the cold war, the united states and the soviet union engaged in a lot of proxy wars, but we never engaged in direct combat, kinetic operations against one another, and that's the needle a in this administration is trying to thread and i, frankly, think any administration would be doing that right now where we're going to give as much assistance as we can to ukraine. we should have been delivering javelin, sting...

If you're town is being bombed to the 10th century, it all feels significant. will: the united states of america has thread the needle averting a nuclear war, participating proxy wars with the soviet union better part of 80 years under multiple administration, regardless of political party. let's hope we three the needle and help ukraine but avoid civil war. we have somebody here to help us, joey jones, fox news contributor, retired bomb tech. joey, you're looking at the country. what are you seeing. >> let's go around the country. we talked kyiv. what the map shows us is that the russians are...

Wrote to president biden. obviously ukrainians very passionate about this no fly zone. >> they should be. they're fighting and they're dying every day. vladimir putin is targeting civilians. their hospitals and schools and residential areas. so we want to do everything we can to help ukraine. we need to get them more javelins, more harpoon anti-ship weapons, the stingers are important and the migs. what the biden administration is doing and one that has bipartisan consensus is trying to spread the needle where we support ukraine as much as possible without risking an escalation. the hallmark o...