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Destruction. >> you're right, the pull factors. one of the biggest pull factor is when these people are sending the kids and they don't see the kids coming back, they say, hey, it's okay to stay. it's okay to send them. >> the ultimate pull factor -- >> you send them back and you close that pull factor. >> the ultimate pull factor is, i think it's the economy, but it is still the american dream. it's the safety net. if my kids get there -- i can understand is mom, a mom and dad, they make a decision, a really tough one to send their kid to say as long as they could step one toe in america, the...

Crime and all that, that's going to take years in many ways. but we still have to show -- we have to show a way that we can slow down the number of people coming in from central america. if we don't do this, i can tell you that the areas that i represent, the border communities, they're frustrated. i'm telling you, they are frustrated. there are pull factors and push factors we need to address as soon as possible. >> right now, while the increase in migrants crossing the border has slowed down in the last couple of months and since peak, that really jump that we saw in february it's still goin...

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Border patrol have been making the apprehensions. it's the loopholes in the system that need to be fixed because those are the pull factors. that only lasts for so long and people start coming back if they know they have the possibility of being released into the country. >> and, of course, bill. you are going to see this being used politically, probably on the hill. demands from the president for the wall and probably more money. >> bill: every month we see these numbers. what do you make of them after seeing them so often. >> the high water mark was in 2,000. 1.6 million apprehensions. you a...

Years. immigration to the united states. what is behind this influx of children? >> well, you have push and pull factors. so, from central america, lots of crime and violence. and that's well-documented. general kelly wrote a piece for the military times this week, saying the effect of the war on drugs there has created chaos and a breakdown of institutions there. and the pull factor, an asylum opportunity that children have because of a law passed in 2008 during the bush administration, bipartisan. saying that children arriving here, claiming they need asylum, are entitled to a hearing. and t...