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Narrative that's being put out, especially mainly from conservative media? >> well, look, i mean when you work in politics you acknowledge there's lots of different narratives out there. and, you know, that's how a guy like bill clinton is in third place in may of the year that he gets elected president. that's how george bush is at, what, 90% popularity and loses nine months later. people are constantly dealing with different pressures in their lives. i think the overall tone in this country is being set by covid than anything else. i mean, we all thought we were going to head toward the exit...

How do we do a better job at preventing those hospitalizations and deaths particularly among the most vulnerable, the elderly, people who are immunocompromised, people in long-term care facilities and communities of color and others who have been highly vulnerable during this pandemic. >> zeke, you brought up the issue of mandates and how important it would be. i'm sure you've seen all the reports. at best, maybe the health care mandate makes it through the supreme court. the workplace one may not. what does that mean -- if the vaccine mandate is the best tool in the toolbox and you can't use ...

Prosecutors dedicated to domestic terrorism. the problem is they were seeded with the international terrorism prosecutors, and you know what happens as i've referenced in my article. the fires after 9/11 that had to consistently get put out, one threat after another coming from the middle east and other international sources, meant necessarily that the domestic folks had to get sucked into the international terrorism work and had to help prosecute that. so if this is a division of labor, i get that. i'm glad they're dedicating a unit. but if it's not with more bodies, that's an issue. if it's ...

The narrative that's being put out, especially -- mainly from conservative media? >> well, look, i mean when you work in politics, you acknowledge there's lots of different narratives out there. you know, that's how a guy like bill clinton is in third place in may of the year that he gets elected president. that's how george bush is at, what, 90% popularity and loses nine months later. people are constantly dealing with different pressures in their lives. i think the overall tone of this country is being set more by covid than anything else. i mean, we all thought that we were headed toward th...

The truth. and now the best friend for enemies is panic in our country. and all this information that helps only for panic doesn't help us. >> reporter: and pam, we just heard arlette outlining telling its civilians to get out of ukraine, and moving diplomats out of the capital of kyiv. the u.s. are not the only ones. there are many other countries doing similar things, issuing travel advisories, telling their nonessential personnel to get out of the country, pulling back troops. the u.k. is also pulling its military advisers. that is too soon according to a top aide to president zelensky. he ...