narrative that's being put out, especially mainly from conservative media? >> well, look, i mean when you work in politics you acknowledge there's lots of different narratives out there. and, you know, that's how a guy like bill clinton is in third place in may of the year that he gets elected president. that's how george bush is at, what, 90% popularity and loses nine months later. people are constantly dealing with different pressures in their lives. i think the overall tone in this country is being set by covid than anything else. i mean, we all thought we were going to head toward the exit door at this, we were going to look at it in our rearview mirror. and now it's back -- >> but, stuart, let me just say -- >> personally i know lots of people that have covid that didn't before. and it's depressing. >> it is. but here's the issue. you have covid and it keeps replicating which causes a mutation or whatever and in large part because of the