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You would certainly advise michael cohen, if he were facing a civil case, and a criminal case at the same time, most lawyers i talked to, all lawyers i talked to, said they would advise michael cohen to say you're taking the fifth, assert your fifth amendment rights in the civil case. >> maybe, maybe not. you know what i do, i would advise a question by question basis, which is what is required under the law. you have to know what the question is before you assert the fifth. this is not a normal case. this is the attorney to the president of the united states, so someone may or may not do or m...

>> i couldn't believe that the fox host didn't het him keep on going. >> how long would he have gone? would he have kept on talking? >> i think several hours. this is his favorite thing to do. we had a chance to interview him in july. hope hicks kept trying to say last question last question and all he wanted to to was talk. we think he would have gone on the rest of the day if he could have. >> how long did it sound like he could have gone on this morning. >> i honestly think he would have gone on several hours. the man loves this. he believes he is his best spokesman, best strategist, his be...

Man, as a father, i'm concerned about that. i'm concerned for his kids and his family, quite honestly. i mean, these are very trying times for him. you know, he's put himself in this position. there's no question about that. and he's going to have to pay a very, very steep price for it. i think he already is. you know, i think that with time he's going to come to learn really what, what happened to him is largely his responsibility, no question. but that mr. trump bears also some significant responsibility. you know, mr. trump's aptitude of treating people around him like dirt and demanding lo...

>> let's bring in michael avenatti, stormy daniels's attorney. i am just dying to hear what you think of the president's entire appearance on fox and friends. but let's take it one step at a time. first, the president's comments about -- i mean, you were right again. he did have knowledge of the payment to your client. >> well, nicolle, i mean, this was another, another gift from the heavens. i don't know how we lucked into such, such great fortune. but the president continues to help us in this case on a daily, if not hourly basis between him and his band of merry men that he's surrounded him...

Do you think that that answer will be available to him and will satisfy rudy in the present? >> the question is they want to know whether the special counsel believes comey and whether they think that comey has authenticity. and the problem that they're going to run into is that there's a lot of stuff backing up what comey said. comey's notes and memos are very detailed. there's contemporaneous handwritten stuff from other justice department officials. there's a lot backing it up -- >> including people that are still there. >> correct. so they're going to go in -- and i can't believe bob muell...