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verdict came along and we made some emergency arrangements. here in boston. to get into this coverage tonight. we have lisa birnbach joining us, as the first guest tonight, as you know, she is e. jean carroll's best friend and the most supportive witness that e. jean carroll had in the trial. she's the very first person who heard e. jean carroll's story. that very day. minutes after it happened. when she had that encounter with donald trump. >> and you know, lisa burn box testimony about this, i think should so much light into the ways in which victims of sexual assault often have a ...

>> i also take judge kaplan's instruction to them today seriously, which is you guys should not reveal your identity because of what this guy will do to you. >> jurors, if you can hear us, we're cure wrs but we don't need to know who you are. also a lot happier the people who don't know. hats offeo to you, you new yorkers. all right, buddy, thank you as always. and thank you at home for joining us this hour. quote, no one is above the law not even a former president of the united states. that is how roberta kaplan, the lawyer for writer e. jean carroll, that is how she began her stat...

do to you. >> jurors, if you could hear us, we are curious but we do not need to know who you are. also, probably a lot happier for the people who do not know about it. like, hats off to you. you new yorkers. all right buddy, see you, thanks as always. thank you at-home for joining us this hour. quote, no one is above the law, not even a former president of the united states. that is how roberta kaplan, the lawyer for writer e. jean carroll, how she began her statement in the case against former president trump. carol herself said quote, i filed this lawsuit against donald trump to c...

little melancholy. and i were just big man, you know, you're not too macho and it's no big deal. the people are gonna hurt more than anyone else is your family. >> we're so glad the senator was able to get the help he needed. remember, if you need help, please ask for it. and if you can give help, please give. it we are all in this together. and on that note, i wish you all a good night. from all of our colleagues across the networks and nbc news, thanks for staying up late. i'll see you at the end of tomorrow. tomorrow thank you at-home for joining us this hour. quote, no one is abo...

the whole country a service. by helping illustrate the confusion and the denial that a lot of sexual victims feel in those first moments after an assault. she's going to be a really important guest to hear from tonight, lawrence, it's great to have her. >> yeah, alex, last night, on this program, we hand harvard law professor -- lawrence tribe. and i alerted the audience to the fact that is very likely that president biden would be paying attention to what professor tribe said about the debt ceiling and the 14th amendment on this program last night. and sure enough today, when presid...