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President. and president-elect then. but in 2019, he said that republicans would have an epiphany once trump was out of the white house. in an interview published by "the atlantic," i'm quoting biden's first interview after the inauguration. he said they're in a really tough spot. you expect people to be willing to get into the second edition of profiles in courage, but it's awful hard. thing's enough people out there, but i don't know. so has he changed his views on bipartisanship? >> no. i think -- look, the president knows better than anybody how the senate works, how congress works, and he...

Giuliani to be trashed and by quoting biden's own words. neil: he said it was perfectly fine for the president to do this and he didn't believe the president did it, i don't know the law part of it but the smell test -- >> we often have to translate some of the president's tweets. neil: i was having trouble enough translating giuliani on this. >> he said that the government should investigate corruption of joe biden's son. this does involve the high level -- the highest really the vice president level of u.s. government involvement with ukraine, a quid pro quo, and if you take just that on its...