But in 2019, he said that republicans would have an epiphany once trump was out of the white house. in an interview published by "the atlantic," i'm quoting biden's first interview after the inauguration. he said they're in a really tough spot. you expect people to be willing to get into the second edition of profiles in courage, but it's awful hard. there's enough people out there, but i don't know. so has he changed his views on bipartisanship? >> no. look, the president knows better than anybody how the senate works, how depress works, and he knows that it's worth the investment to try to b...