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Pinger locaters. is that something search and rescue would use at this time? are we talking about purely at this early stage, less than 24 hours after the plane disappeared, are we talking about mainly a visual search? they re mainly doing a visual search of course hopefully aided by a tremendous amount of data from nations who will i hope freely share their radar tracking information. that was one of the biggest problems on 370 in that the radar information that the malaysia government had wasn t shared for four days and they wasted four days looking in the wrong part for the plane, so with good radar coordinates, they should be able to pinpoint in the last radar target hits for this plane, so they ll be doing a visual search get the debris field, if any then use current charts and algorithms to trace back where it would have entered the water if they find the debris field. so to you, david, given the fact we know that this plane disappeared at 7:24 a.m. local time how big, roughl ....
Can we get in terms of the radar information that we do have? that s a great question poppy, because you know, one thing that they ve got that s a huge advantage is the approximate last known position. to us that was the center of a haystack. now the question is how wide is that haystack? right. there are clues like primary radar. we haven t heard about akars yet. all of that will help to find how wide. i tell you every minute that that plane stays airborne is another ten miles in radius of that circle and that s exponential and adds up quickly into a huge area. there s nothing simple though on the map it looks like it s very tightly controlled. when you get out there on that ocean, it s a huge sea. no question about that as paula was just reporting as well. let me bring in you, les, david used the word akars, for our viewers who are not aviation experts, what does that mean how significant is that? the automatic crew reporting it s a reporting system. ....
This plane was not brought down with isis. how are they so sure? well, we don t know the answer, but there s some logical things we can think of. you know, did the pilot perhaps make a may day call? and if he did, and we don t know, did he say that he was having some sort of mechanical trouble? and that he was going to have to bail out? the command centers that monitor all these combat missions, they get all the radar information back. they see the full picture. did they see something that tells them what happened to the plane? and since we don t know, there may be very good intelligence reasons, we don t know why the coalition isn t saying yet. maybe they figure the less information isis has at this point, the better. yeah. no matter what brought the plane down, the reality is that right now, this fighter is in the hands of isis. let s talk about that. what are the chances that jordan will negotiate directly with isis? what might isis want out of this? money? a prisoner swap? what ....
Investigation, getting there, conducting the investigation, it has to be done without a hint of political gain on the part of the investigators. there s also the other aspect in this, which is nato countries, other countries in the region, as our barbara starr was reporting in the last hour, all looking at their radar information, satellite information, to try to see if they can pinpoint where whatever missile system was used, where it was, when exactly the device was launched and exactly what occurred or senior international correspondent, nick payton walsh joining us in london. what are you learning? reporter: what we re hearing from the ukraine and prime minister, a bit more detail about the sort of investigation they want to see happen. they ve already said, he says, formed their own governmental commission. they are appealing for an international investigation, not only of this, but also of the downing of an illusion 76. that s a large passenger cargo ....
Military responds to these kind of allegations and this kind of security situation. well, first of all, my assumption is that we ve already got our ir satellites, infrared heat signature satellites would have told us probably whether there was a missile launched or not and from where it came. that s number one. number two, these targets are acquired by radar. our radar signals are like a flash flight in the dark. it s almost impossible not to see it. we should have radar information and the national security administration, it was monitoring the chatter on the ground. my assumption is, this was not russian military on the other side of the border. it would be a level of incompetence to shoot down a commercial airliner, known ....