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Why they crossed over the border. they crossed the desert, tla get to the border and what happens, they get torn apart. and it's just the incompetence of this administration. they put this process in place and now they're stuck and now these families are stuck and they can't bring them back together. >> jeff, what's your sense of how this is being discussed in the white house? is it an issue still on the radar screen in the highest level meetings or not? >> i think the radar question is the right one. you said the courts will be taking this up very shortly. i think the democrats will be taking...

>> why would you send a letter to the justice department? >> well, i think there is not much spelled out in that letter. the actual text of the letter doesn't say it but i think the idea is if this was not the president it would be look at, this maybe you want to prosecute this person, maybe you want to investigate this person for campaign finance or a legal violation not adding this amount to their form last year. the question is what does d.o.j. do with it? is it a problem for moib? is it a problem for donald trump? we don't know what the d.o.j. is going to do with this. but it's the sort of...